I don’t usually put such long items by others on this blog (my own are often long enough!) but this one by Thom Hartmann, that I read a long time ago, I just came across again in doing some research for a event tomorow How Giftedness Can Cause Learning Challenges with Drs. Brock and Fernette Eide
that I’ll be a panel on. Thom’s latest book is Screwed: The Undeclared War On the Middle Class and What We Can Do About It.
Thom has written several books on ADD and other topics, and is a former psychotherapist and founder of a school for children with ADD, has his own national radio show, and has done a wide variety of other things.
I was in India in 1993 to help manage a community for orphans and blind children on behalf of a German charity. During the monsoon season, the week of the big Hyderabad earthquake, I took an all-day train ride almost all the way across the subcontinent (from Bombay through Hyderabad to Rajamundri) to visit an obscure town near the Bay of Bengal. In the train compartment with me were several Indian businessmen and a physician, and we had plenty of time to talk as the countryside flew by from sunrise to sunset.
Curious about how they viewed our children diagnosed as having Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD), I asked, “Are you familiar with those types of people who seem to crave stimulation, yet have a hard time staying with any one focus for a period of time? They may hop from career to career and sometimes even from relationship to relationship, never seeming to settle into one job or into a life with one person — but the whole time they remain incredibly creative and inventive.”
“Ah, we know this type well,” one of the men said, the other three nodding in agreement.
“What do you call this personality type?” I asked.
“Very holy,” he said. “These are old souls, near the end of their karmic cycle.”
Again, the other three nodded agreement, perhaps a bit more vigorously in response to my startled look.
“Old souls?” I questioned, thinking that a very odd description for those whom American psychiatrists have diagnosed as having a particular disorder.
“Yes,” the physician said. “In our religion, we believe that the purpose of reincarnation is to eventually free oneself from worldly entanglement and desire. In each lifetime we experience certain lessons, until finally we are free of this earth and can merge into the oneness of God. When a soul is very close to the end of those thousands of incarnations, he must take a few lifetimes to do many, many things — to clean up the little threads left over from his previous lives.”
“This is a man very close to becoming enlightened,” a businessman added. “We have great respect for such individuals, although their lives may be difficult.”
Another businessman raised a finger and interjected. “But it is through the difficulties of such lives that the soul is purified.”
The others nodded agreement.
“In America they consider this behavior indicative of a psychiatric disorder,” I said.
All three looked startled, then laughed.
“In America you consider our most holy men, our yogis and swamis, to be crazy people as well,” said the physician with a touch of sadness in his voice. “So it is with different cultures. We live in different worlds.”
We in our Western world have such “holy” and nearly enlightened people among us and we say they must be mad. But as we’re about to see, they may instead be our most creative individuals, our most extraordinary thinkers, our most brilliant inventors and pioneers. The children among us whom our teachers and psychiatrists say are “disordered” may, in fact, carry a set of abilities — a skill set — that was necessary for the survival of humanity in the past, that has created much of what we treasure in our present “quality of life,” and that will be critical to the survival of the human race in the future.
I could say quite a lot about this, but beside saying I strongly agree I thought I’d leave this one as a stand alone.
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hey there folks…..reading this article moved me. I have occasionally sought out spiritualists and psychics who insist I am an “old soul”. In addition, at a recent meeting with friends who enjoy learning spiritual info., a medium told me that he immediately knew I was an ‘old soul’ because apparently, he saw the number ‘9′ when he met me. I have ADD rather severely..and am the youngest of nine children. I have been feeling ratber defeated lately…and for good reason. Reading that article just did wonders for my head and heart. Thank You. Kathy
You’re welcome Kathy, there’s so much out there on the negatives of ADD it’s important to realize there’s also positives
Its amazing I have read one of Hartmann’s book.
Healing ADD. That I keep with me. I would really like to read it.
When my first son was born, the first thing I thought as he was shown to me was “He’s an old soul!” He has ADHD and dyslexia. It took me a long time just to get his teachers to test him for dyslexia and no one mentioned ADD! Apparently at this time in his life Doctors here didn’t know very much about ADD. As he approached his teen years, I was hearing about ADD. My son and I dealt with his ADD and dyslexia as best we could. He was always inventing things, (still is) but has yet to patent anything (not by choice). He has grown up to have a heart as big as outdoors but has problems with his relationship. He’s been married for a little over 12 years now (with the same woman), has 3 children and struggles to maintain a “normal” life. He sent me this aricle and after reading it I cried! By the way, I know of Thom Hartman and respect him greatly. I will be buying his books on ADHD, ADD etc for my son, his wife and myself. Thank you for this article.
There should be more articles like this, I’ve got what’s reffered to as a full house case of ADHD, meaning I tick every box in diagnosis. Everyone knows me as a ’special’ but the implied definition varies from meaning spiritual and gifted to being one big screw up. It frustrates me being extremely bright and quick yet being virtually incapable of doing a lot of normal every day stuff required to live day to day such as filling in government required paperwork etc. This article has picked me up quite a bit, I can get horrendous depression and feel useless at times. I searched ‘coping with adult adhd’ in goole and turned up this article. Perhaps I should be looking at embracing ADHD and thinking that way instead of viewing it as something to be ‘coped’ with
I ACTUALLY CRIED WHEN I READ THIS
Pete,
Why haven’t I come here sooner? We’ve traveled the same internet circles for a few years now, and now that I’ve found your site, the more I read, the more I love it. I’ll be reading more and posting more of your blog now, and probably RT’ing you in twitter as well as sharing in FB.
I’ll go kick my self as I make dinner now. It’s only 9:20 pm. LOL
Hi Kat, don’t know but glad you’ve found it, and like it. Thanks in advance for spreading the word about my content here on other sites, I appreciate it. No kicking required:)
Wow, being recently diagnosed at 38, all I can say is thank you for helping me see that there is somwhere that my creativity, ambition, and desire to learn everything I can during my life would be welcome and cherished. I’m so glad I came across this story.
You’re welcome Moppie
Hello. I am the sister of Kathy Vickey, who responded to your article back in March of 2007.
Kathy passed away yesterday, on June 8, 2010 as a result of advanced lung and brain cancer. She did indeed have a difficult life, not only because of ADHD, bi-polar disorder and severe depression, but especially lately as she bravely struggled through each and every day with all the symptoms of cancer. Since Kathy’s diagnosis in October of 2009, we have gotten closer as sisters and I will miss her. She was incredibly brilliant and understanding. It was always amazing to me how perceptive she was with regards to people’s behaviors. I couldn’t hide anything from her and I believe she was an “old soul.” I am so saddened by her passing, but I am so glad that she is no longer suffering.
Thank you for being there for Kathy.
Lisa,
I know I speak for all of us who read Pete’s blog when I say that we are saddened to hear of your loss, though I am glad that you had the time with your sister to grow closer before she moved to her next plane of existence.
Cancer is a horrid disease, but the silver lining to that incredibly dark cloud was the time you did have to grow closer to her. I lost a previous husband to cancer, his was already stage 4 when it was discovered. I didn’t know your sister, but I saw the wisdom in her words, as we both saw wisdom in the words Pete had shared in this blog & article.
Peace,
Kat
Hi Lisa,
I’m sorry for your loss, but I’m glad you had time get closer to her and see all aspects of Kathy, including her good ones, which all too often many of of us often forget to notice.