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	<title>Comments on: Social Media and SEO Scorecard for the Vancouver Civic Election</title>
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	<description>A Blog about Adults with Attention Surplus Condition (aka ADHD) by Adult ADD Coach Pete Quily</description>
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		<title>By: BC Medical Assn says ADHD Costing BC 500 Million Yearly. Asks Govt to Improve Access to Care for ADHD Patients &#124; Adult ADD Strengths</title>
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		<dc:creator>BC Medical Assn says ADHD Costing BC 500 Million Yearly. Asks Govt to Improve Access to Care for ADHD Patients &#124; Adult ADD Strengths</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 05:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wow. Not impressed. Maybe she should read this Obama McCain social media scorecard post or this Vancouver civic election social media scorecard post I did to see why social media is important in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Wow. Not impressed. Maybe she should read this Obama McCain social media scorecard post or this Vancouver civic election social media scorecard post I did to see why social media is important in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Quily</title>
		<link>http://adultaddstrengths.com/2008/11/18/social-media-and-seo-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-1023682</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Quily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks David.

Yes they need to learn it plus they need to learn to be more open vs old style command and control (need a bit of that, but not too much) or it won&#039;t work, that will be the challenging part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks David.</p>
<p>Yes they need to learn it plus they need to learn to be more open vs old style command and control (need a bit of that, but not too much) or it won&#8217;t work, that will be the challenging part.</p>
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		<title>By: David Wong</title>
		<link>http://adultaddstrengths.com/2008/11/18/social-media-and-seo-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-1023669</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great research. Thanks. Definitely an area Politicians must consider from this moment forward. 

Thus the message to all Politicos: Technology and the information age ...understand it, or suffer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great research. Thanks. Definitely an area Politicians must consider from this moment forward. </p>
<p>Thus the message to all Politicos: Technology and the information age &#8230;understand it, or suffer.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Quily</title>
		<link>http://adultaddstrengths.com/2008/11/18/social-media-and-seo-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-1016758</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Quily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot Jonathon. I appreciate it.

Done right, using social media in politics or in business can be a game changer. Done wrong or ignored when competitors use them properly, it can be a disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot Jonathon. I appreciate it.</p>
<p>Done right, using social media in politics or in business can be a game changer. Done wrong or ignored when competitors use them properly, it can be a disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathon Narvey</title>
		<link>http://adultaddstrengths.com/2008/11/18/social-media-and-seo-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-1016635</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathon Narvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete, this is hands down, the best blog post I&#039;ve ever seen on the impact of social media on politics in Canada. I salute you, sir.

During a downturn like the one we&#039;re in, social media consultants have to start developing ROI models, or organizations will see social networking as a nice-to-have, not must-have, tool. This post is a model of excellent research and analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete, this is hands down, the best blog post I&#8217;ve ever seen on the impact of social media on politics in Canada. I salute you, sir.</p>
<p>During a downturn like the one we&#8217;re in, social media consultants have to start developing ROI models, or organizations will see social networking as a nice-to-have, not must-have, tool. This post is a model of excellent research and analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuesday Morning Link Fest: News and Blog Digest &#187; Vancouver Blog Miss 604 by Rebecca Bollwitt</title>
		<link>http://adultaddstrengths.com/2008/11/18/social-media-and-seo-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-996915</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuesday Morning Link Fest: News and Blog Digest &#187; Vancouver Blog Miss 604 by Rebecca Bollwitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 08:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Quily has an impressive and thorough comparison of social media tools used by Ladner and Robertson during Vancouver&#8217;s civic election [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pete Quily</title>
		<link>http://adultaddstrengths.com/2008/11/18/social-media-and-seo-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-990538</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Quily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Michael, 

from reading that link I think Vision Vancouver just admitted to it but didn&#039;t apologize for it. Maybe they apologized somewhere else and I didn&#039;t read it though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Michael, </p>
<p>from reading that link I think Vision Vancouver just admitted to it but didn&#8217;t apologize for it. Maybe they apologized somewhere else and I didn&#8217;t read it though.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Klassen</title>
		<link>http://adultaddstrengths.com/2008/11/18/social-media-and-seo-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-990510</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Klassen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh brother. Okay, Vision had nothing to do with the twitterjacking Sam Sullivan (but they did apologize for jacking Ladner - see http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/westcoastnews/story.html?id=ae64177a-a039-4149-9edd-eabfda7cd7b5). 

Funny to think that the FAKE Ladner and Sullivan were not by the same people:

http://twitter.com/peterladner
http://twitter.com/samsullivan

The offer still stands to the person who did to contact me and we&#039;ll sort it out. I know that these things happen, and campaign workers can get overzealous.

As for the commitment to being &quot;real&quot; with the voters through social media, it&#039;s an important tenet. The tools should project the values and ideas of the candidates and the campaigns, not manipulate them.

If it is up to me I&#039;ll always reinforce the importance of this media to today&#039;s voters with any campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh brother. Okay, Vision had nothing to do with the twitterjacking Sam Sullivan (but they did apologize for jacking Ladner &#8211; see <a href="http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/westcoastnews/story.html?id=ae64177a-a039-4149-9edd-eabfda7cd7b5)" rel="nofollow">http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/westcoastnews/story.html?id=ae64177a-a039-4149-9edd-eabfda7cd7b5)</a>. </p>
<p>Funny to think that the FAKE Ladner and Sullivan were not by the same people:</p>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/peterladner" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/peterladner</a><br />
<a href="http://twitter.com/samsullivan" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/samsullivan</a></p>
<p>The offer still stands to the person who did to contact me and we&#8217;ll sort it out. I know that these things happen, and campaign workers can get overzealous.</p>
<p>As for the commitment to being &#8220;real&#8221; with the voters through social media, it&#8217;s an important tenet. The tools should project the values and ideas of the candidates and the campaigns, not manipulate them.</p>
<p>If it is up to me I&#8217;ll always reinforce the importance of this media to today&#8217;s voters with any campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: KoriB</title>
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		<dc:creator>KoriB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mike,

Seeing as Vision has nothing to do with the sam sullivan twitter, I&#039;d suggest you rehone the sleuthing skills that led to that accusation and find the login yourself.

regards,

Kori</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mike,</p>
<p>Seeing as Vision has nothing to do with the sam sullivan twitter, I&#8217;d suggest you rehone the sleuthing skills that led to that accusation and find the login yourself.</p>
<p>regards,</p>
<p>Kori</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Quily</title>
		<link>http://adultaddstrengths.com/2008/11/18/social-media-and-seo-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-990303</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Quily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Jason,

yes it was off brand but i think the biggest problem with it was not just the twitterjacking it was that the campaign never really seemed to admit it was wrong and apologize for it. Maybe they did, I&#039;m not 100% sure but that was my impression.

You&#039;re right, in the midst of a campaign it&#039;s probably not as easy to be objective amidst all the chaos. What monitoring tools did you use to keep track of what bloggers and twitters were saying about your candidate and the campaign in general and how did you use them?

Thanks Monique.

Thanks Michael,

I agree Sam has more content on his site. He does have more photos with his name on it in Flickr then Peter Ladner, 868 vs 252.

Are you sure that it&#039;s people from the Vision campaign that twitterjacked Sam Sullivan? There&#039;s more than a few people who might not like Sam that might have done it. How do you know for sure?

I think part of what&#039;s important for social media in the campaign is not just the knowledge of the people doing the social media, it&#039;s the buy in by the candidate and other staff members of the degree of importance of it and how much resources are they willing to devote and are they willing to change the style of their campaign to be more open, and accept the risks and rewards that it brings. The last one especially is not what most political campaigns have been traditionally in favour of.

One danger for the NPA is to think that if they just use the tools more, they&#039;ll get a different result next time, the belief that&#039;s all that&#039;s needed. Kind of like the typical line many politicians use, &quot;we just need to change how we delivered the message&quot; vs actually changing the message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Jason,</p>
<p>yes it was off brand but i think the biggest problem with it was not just the twitterjacking it was that the campaign never really seemed to admit it was wrong and apologize for it. Maybe they did, I&#8217;m not 100% sure but that was my impression.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, in the midst of a campaign it&#8217;s probably not as easy to be objective amidst all the chaos. What monitoring tools did you use to keep track of what bloggers and twitters were saying about your candidate and the campaign in general and how did you use them?</p>
<p>Thanks Monique.</p>
<p>Thanks Michael,</p>
<p>I agree Sam has more content on his site. He does have more photos with his name on it in Flickr then Peter Ladner, 868 vs 252.</p>
<p>Are you sure that it&#8217;s people from the Vision campaign that twitterjacked Sam Sullivan? There&#8217;s more than a few people who might not like Sam that might have done it. How do you know for sure?</p>
<p>I think part of what&#8217;s important for social media in the campaign is not just the knowledge of the people doing the social media, it&#8217;s the buy in by the candidate and other staff members of the degree of importance of it and how much resources are they willing to devote and are they willing to change the style of their campaign to be more open, and accept the risks and rewards that it brings. The last one especially is not what most political campaigns have been traditionally in favour of.</p>
<p>One danger for the NPA is to think that if they just use the tools more, they&#8217;ll get a different result next time, the belief that&#8217;s all that&#8217;s needed. Kind of like the typical line many politicians use, &#8220;we just need to change how we delivered the message&#8221; vs actually changing the message.</p>
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