Update. Now 606 Members
The next time some moron tells you that you can’t have ADD because you did well in school tell them about this.
There’s a Mensa Special Interest Group on ADD / ADHD that has 225 update 606 members now. You have to be a member of Mensa to join and to join Mensa you need a verified IQ of 130.
Here’s the intro to the group
What happens when someone has both a high IQ AND attention deficit disorder? What if one or both go undiagnosed? There are many geniuses who are lost, both to themselves and to society, because the combined effects of high IQ and A.D.D. are not fully understood. This SIG is dedicated to sharing experiences, solutions, connections and hope.
I found about the group here
Here’s what a Mensa member who has ADD, is in medical school and who’s blog is called Head rush described the email conversation after he joined the group.
1 minute later, I am sitting here at my desk having a brain hemorrhage because I am trying to follow the conversation thread.
It was like listening to Good Will Hunting after drinking 97 cans of Red Bull. Nothing like 100 people firing off intellectual jokes and then forgetting to tell the punch line and instead discussing the chemical components of rocket fuel.
One common thing I notice in some of my ADHD coaching clients is that they found school easy, and very boring. They often got A’s with little effort. Because they did well in school the often were not diagnosed with ADD, because of the mistaken belief that if you have ADD you do poorly in school. Many people I know with ADD seem smarter than average.
Many ADDers do have problems in school and especially the 30% of them with learning disabilities. But not all do. Many ADDers are also gifted. Google “adhd gifted” and you’ll find 2,900 hits. I did pretty well in school and university, made the dean’s honours list and got one of my essays published. Main problem was ADD related procrastination, time mismangement and associated stress, i.e., cramming for a final the night before.
If you’re gifted and have Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, what are your main challenges associated with ADHD?
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I have adhd or something haha yeah I couldnt do anything in school I thought the system was really stupid… well I know its stupid.. you dont need any of that stuff… anywho.. I failed a lot in school but mostly in math the math doesnt make sence to me just sacred geometry and pi..
I did great with independant study… I got an A in government class because I got to do it all on my own.. eveyone in my high school class got the highest of a D… now theres obviously something wrong with school if supposedly “normal” kids are failing.. when I kid like me got an A and Bs in other subjects I would normally fail in school. i got a C in math after always failing.. at least I got to understand alittle of it.. haha
The world needs to meet the needs of the new wave of evolutionized children. and stop giving them chemicals. that makes kids act all out of balance cause their bodies arent ment for chemicals… only real fresh food.. you know they kind we all have forsaken for the past century.. the past comes up to bite the world in the butt.
Spread Love and understanding
“now theres obviously something wrong with school if supposedly “normal” kids are failing.. when I kid like me got an A and Bs in other subjects I would normally fail in school.”
Not really, some ADDers do really well in things they’re interested in school.
less chemicals in food would be good for everyone, but they don’t cause ADD. see http://adultaddstrengths.com/2006/02/09/whats-the-2-genetically-inherited-condition-in-the-world/
I have ADHD and Asperger’s. I was missed at school mainly because they were like “oooh he’s got a high IQ”. My mum kept telling them yeah but there is some other problem there, and wanted to have special support but they refused ‘cos I had a high IQ and they didn’t consider I needed special support as I was just hyperactive. At the end of school I ended up with 3 C’s, after finding out I had AS and ADHD I went back to college to re-take GCSE English (I’d got 2 F’s in English at school), I then got 2 C’s at College, unfortunately at College level you can’t retake the original GCSE, you take a toned down version of it which has a maximum score of C, we did a presentation though and I was told that we would have scored A on the presentation but they couldn’t score us any higher than C due to this limitation (shame I’d really like to know what would be my proper mark in English with proper support – along with my proper marks in all my other subjects – I highly suspect in Maths and IT I could have easily got an A, but without the right support ended up with a C and a D, now though I have HND in Software Engineering).
I have ADHD but was not diagnosed until age 66. In grade school and the first two years of high school, I received straight A’s. I never studied, never completed an assignment, and never cracked a book. It was said that I had an IQ of 146, and my mom had placed me in Mensa by taking me in for testing. The final two years in high school, I barely passed many classes while I got A’s in others. I was much more interested in aircraft design and preferred the challenge of designing and building my own flying models. I won the California State Championships in hand launched glider at age 17 competing against 30 to 50 year old adults.
I never could do math. I could not sit still long enough to memorize the tables. It was simply beyond me. I am still extremely poor at math. I have been on dextroamphetamine for two months now and I finally have the ability to study without my mind wandering or falling asleep. I wish i knew my last name at the time I took the Mensa test. I most certainly cannot pass it now because of my zero abilities in math. You think a way for long enough and given time, you can become somewhat stuck, or possibly disheartened enough that the will to go through 10 years of missed events is just not wort the problems.
I have spent much of my life studying psychology, and as a person who feels well informed and perhaps even a bit uniquely gifted at that study, I can say with some conviction that the older Stanford-Binet, the MMPI, (of my youthful generation) and some of the current tests do not accurately measure or quantify everyone’s intellectual abilities nor measure all some have to offer.
Myself, as example. My friends and close associates are all gifted people. We match well, and they feel that I am gifted as well, yet I am certain I would not score well on most tests. I would love to have the opportunity to be back in Mensa. I recall it as a child and I felt like I was finally with people who were interesting to me. Relating to the usual crowd, I feel much like a person with an average IQ would feel in a room full of developmentally challenged (old term-retarded) people. I am far beyond almost everyone I know. i seem to float through problems as if they were simple things kids do for fun. In fact, I don’t look at problems, as “Problems”, but as solutions in production. It seems little is not solvable. BUT… put a time table on it and I will probably fail. I don’t know why that is, but it may possibly be a idiosyncratic neurosynaptic sort of misfire… who would know without extensive research on such individuals and I have only known two in my lifetime. Additionally, at my still young age, I have already noticed the beginnings of memory difficulties. My short term memory has taken a somewhat noticeable hit.
Just some interesting things to pass along to those of you who might be as affected as I have been with undiagnosed adult ADHD. I should have been, as I could not be contained as a youth. I recall in first grade, the teacher tied me to my desk. I was shortly advanced to the second grade and the new teacher was a bit more tolerant of my high activity level. She advanced me to the third grade in about two weeks, and I remained a few years ahead of my classmates. Fortunately, I was quite tall, so I fit well and did not receive much heckling about being younger.
Another reason I am submitting this is on a whim that someone may know a way of being tested by Mensa in any manner but the usual. It is obvious to myself and others that I am of a much higher IQ but my disuse of any mathematics for 62 years as well as a short term memory problem and the difficulties of ADHD make it unlikely I could enter. I suppose I still belong but I have no certificates nor am I able to recall my last name at that time. My mother was married many times, was herself a highly creative person and a gifted artist and designer, but she was also quite nutz. No problem, as that happens to some, but it does create a problem searching for my original identity with Mensa.
Thanks, any comments will be sent to me and I can respond.
@moritherapy haven’t read it but many #adhd & #LD people are gifted. it’s not either or. Mensa ADHD SIG w/ 500 members http://bit.ly/8K2km
Oddly enough I went through the same, as a child I was ignored by my teachers. I was reffered to as annoying and hyperactive. They told my parents to test me for ADHD although they never did cause they knew I was smart. I have never recieved good grades in school because I never cared enough to. I always did well on test because I liked them they were easy to me. My teachers wondered how i did so well if all i did was play my game boy or draw during the whole class. They would allow it because otherwise I was too fidgety and talked too much. I took a couple of IQ tests, I scored 165 on one and 146 on another. I could read English in Kindergarten although I learned english that very year, Spanish was my first language. I always finished my school work faster than the rest and was done w everything for the day by recess at 10 sometimes my teacher would give me extra class work so i wouldn’t disturb the rest. I have not to this day been able to complete a homework assignment on my own time. I lack concentration and organizational skill. I ussually think at 100 miles per hour and can only act at 5 miles per hour. I don’t get why I can’t concentrate on my thoughts but I know I am a very quick thinker. Let me know what you think.
@dakotaross_com Yes. There’s a MENSA #ADHD special interest group of 500+ members http://bit.ly/1O0zb
.@Alice_Cullen222 @demonsunleashd Tell them about the MENSA #ADHD special interest group with 500+ members http://bit.ly/1O0zb
@bobfinn See also Mensa #ADHD special interest group 500+ members http://bit.ly/1O0zb #aacap
In response to J Cook:
I too was not properly diagnosed with ADHD until late -age 40. As a child, I was tested in the 99th percentile, but that “knowledge” was quickly abandoned when it was decided I was “willful” and “lazy” -I honestly had forgotten I was supposed to be bright.
I understand your wanting to avoid the IQ test because of the math. But listen to me, IT WON’T MATTER. My IQ was tested in a neuropsychological evaluation, because of my complaints about my horrible memory. (I’d gone for years in and out of Mental wards, heavily medicated, continually misdiagnosed, having co-morbid anxiety and depression from the horrible confusion from high IQ and ADHD) I was crying during what I believed to be simple diagnostic cognition and memory testing. I answered almost NONE of the math questions -because I can’t. I’m marginal at simple addition, under stress? -forget it…
They diagnosed my ADHD, and had measured my full scale IQ at 146, even with a sub-score of 50% in the math.
Don’t let fear of judgment keep you from yourself one minute longer. Too much time has passed as is…
Hug,
Wendy
@AureliaCotta yes lots of bright people with #ADHD. See MENSA ADHD Special interest group 500+ people http://bit.ly/1O0zb
@pkdragons you're welcome. oh yes, check out this MENSA ADHD special interest group http://bit.ly/1O0zb
@hummingbird604 also there's a MENSA #ADHD special interest group with 600 members http://bit.ly/1O0zb
Hi Guys
I have been stuck in my mind for most of my life, and after reading some of your comments, I finally feel a little sense of relief about my situation. I am sitting here at 1:30 in the morning, worried about the 25 page paper I have due in 4 days, but I cannot find the excitement to do something about it until a day or two before. I am almost 30 and just finishing my Bachelors over the summer. It has taken me nearly 10 years of interruption, but I can say that it is looking better for me now. I was a horrible student growing up. My mother hung my C’s on the fridge because they were so used to d’s and Fs. I was expelled from school my senior year, I was constantly late, I sat in the back of the class all the time, I hated authority, and I had averaged GPA of a 1.2. I got up constantly, switched positions in my desk, took walks to the latrine and was deathly afraid of being called on because I never had any idea of what the class was doing. I was always some place else. I had the giggles constantly. It was not until recently that I began to try and figure this out. I don’t think many people understand what it is like to be locked inside your brain so tightly that every issue, problem, concept, idea, etc… feels like one big run on sentence. Nothing ever has an ending. One problem brings another problem or question in my mind- it is freaking endless. It kills me on test. I sit there fore literally hours finding every word either contradicting or related to something else. I will think I know the material back and forth- then I get to the question and I ask the question back “What does he mean by this…This, that or this? Why isn’t he more clear damn it! This could be 3 things!!” I turn A, B, C, D options into E, F, G, H and so on. There is no such thing as black and white- everything is grey. I suppose that is why Math and I do not get along. The only kind of Math I get along well in is statistics, because I can see everything right there, and it seems so much more relevant (yes, I know all math is relevant, but for me Stats is more meaningful.) I guess what I mean is that I find a relationship to everything in my mind, and it can drive me and others around me crazy. I say things and people say “Where did that come from?” or “We are not there yet.” I was diagnosed with ADHD about 5 years ago and began medication then. I think it helped greatly, (I now have a 4.0) but I feel like some parts of my hyperactivity are getting worse. My memory has become terrible. I had to get neuro test recently because I thought something else was going on. I am skipping beginnings of words when I write ( I was told my hand is not keeping up with what my brain is putting out), I map things out and problem solve completely differently than my peers, and I prefer to teach my self things than attend lectures. I cannot handle the least bit of distraction, because the slightest thing (a candy wrapper, pencil taps, radiators, light conversations around me) feels like a damn marching band is in the room. When I was tested, I was given hours of test, of which I broke down in tears due to the math distraction part. Not only was it mortifying because I am not a big crier, but it made me realize that even at almost 30 years old, I still struggle with things that haunted me as a child. I had to explain this to the test taker who looked at me as if I was disturbed. I have never been tested in a full IQ test. I was always scared I was stupid, so I never cared to take one, plus I despise the pressure of tests. Anyway, I don’t know what to do, because I am still trying to find my way, and I find myself constantly BORED TO TEARS. I do not know about being MENSA smart, or having an IQ of this or that- to be honest, I hate labels and pieces of paper that try to describe humans in numbers or acronyms. I just want to figure out the best way for me to keep working, keep at least a little organized, and to not think so deeply that people think Im not listening or that I am an idiot or just plain “out there”. I want to be efficient with my ideas and I want to remember all of them. It is so lonely to be like this.
Since I was diagnosed with ADD (it’s actually not ADHD as I believe I said in my first post) and started on medication, I have done some in-depth studies, research, and I have found some extremely positive things about some of us high IQ ADD’ers. We seem to be a special group. There is a bit of a scientific study I wandered into. I promised not to divulge it yet–and maybe never as I suffered a huge crash wiping out all my notes and I can’t recall where it was and I can’t find it or the phone number I wrote down. They think I am a writer doing book research where I want factual information. They would not have provided me so much time if I had been another joe blow. I actually did put a large part of it in a book I am writing so I didn’t fib–well, not too much.
A group of scientists and psychologists have been studying the high IQ ADD or as I will say from now on, the HIADD’s and some interesting things are emerging. It seems we are uniquely similar. Or at least the group they are testing has been unusually similar, and my stats fit there as well.
Of the ones that are definitely high IQ, the tested IQ seem to range between 138 and 152, (I don’t recall the particular test used) and over 90 % admit they would rather not do the math part. If they do take the math test the scores are barely passing.
Secondly (or is this thirdly… who gives a shit) each of them, and myself, have no concern for anything competitive. We all have a high level of self confidence and are likely to take on something new because we feel it would work, not because it has been done that way before and there is a very high level of success in a short time (86% if my memory is accurate and I think it is) when any HIADDer takes on a project. The problem being that it is always one of perhaps 10 or more projects, and that once worked to the top–and then it is usually the ONLY project, and that persons mind day and night.
Additionally, the HIADD sleep only when they want, not to the social tune of being in bed at 10pm and up at six or seven. I can relate to that as it is 4am now and that is more common for me to be up all night than not. I am 69 and still pull 24 hour shifts. Willingly too. How about you?
Of these new things the HIADD’s take on, they seem to be extremely conceptual, yet highly realistic. The scientists seemed to feel we have a gift for reality, preferring reality over the usual emotional issues others base their ideals on. We seem to place faith in what we know is accurate, without any need to cement our own abilities down by proving ourselves or being defensive. We don’t rationalize, we accept things that fail, learning from them easily, then we take another step up the ladder, or we just fix what failed and continue. We seem not to be concerned with what others think of us, but more what we think of ourselves.
One HIADD put it down very well. He said I studied psychology. When I did, I found that those in psychology decided on that career because they felt there was something wrong with themselves, and they wanted to find out what it was. Then he said, “I studied psychology because I thought there was something wrong with everyone else. They worked in emotions, not reality, and I didn’t fit. I wanted to know why they were so screwy”.
So far, all of that is myself as well. You?
The other three unique measures the HIADD’s possessed really showed how this HIADD group is special (as far as this group studying them has discovered) They all seem to have little interest in money. Yet they always seem to have enough even though they switch jobs frequently, do what they want, and have no college degrees to speak of. Some do not have a high school degree. I fit that having quit two weeks before graduation. I had no interest in the graduation crap. It was just a dress up party and a bit idiotic as far as I was concerned. They were going to celebrate “A high school education” of all things. The school failed me even though I had passed all my courses. I didn’t care.
I got in 9 years of college after that; two years actual at about 15 units a sem. Too slow. I began auditing at 25 to 35 units and that made it for me. I even went to two years of law school in Utah that way. No one seemed to care if I sat in and when they did I invented reasons to make it seem reasonable. I loved that time. I’m putting this in so those who find school slow, can know of the audit process. You simply ask professors if you may sit in. They think you are a signed up student, checking on their class for next semester. College and Law School was free! No degrees, but I’m a businessman, so I don’t care. I have no desire to display a bragging wall, and usually throw out the awards I get. My wife attends the ceremonies the cities give me. I have no interest in it.
HIADD’s seem to have a unique ability to solve problems. Any problem, at any level, pertaining to any subject except those requiring specialized knowledge we don’t have. Stuff like theoretical quantum mechanics and the like. Who cares anyway, unless we get into it for fun. It’s too confining and takes too long in one subject. I get bored.
Finally, we are honest. Not honest in that we never lie, because everyone does, but that we can be absolutely honest with what we did or did not accomplish and look at the results dispassionately, seeking only a better solution, not an emotional place where we could bask in admiration or show off our skills. We seem to be unconcerned with admiration.
Sure, like all humans, we like friends, but we can’t get along with the “normals” well. They are too different from us. One fellow said the ones he studied, marked the question “What do you feel speaking with normal people is most like”. One answer was “I feel like I am talking to Chimpanzees” and it got the largesr percentage of the marks. Do any of you feel like that? I do. I just attempted to have a conversation with a contractor fixing my house on a government grant. He wanted to do some things differently, I didn’t want it done that way. I spoke in terms of reality. He was emotional and his edge on this was finishing quickly so he could get paid early. I bet he doesn’t know that picked up on that. I denied him that, he crabbed, tried to be the boss in my house. I fired him. He didn’t think I could, but contract law is contract law, and now he has not been paid.
The final thing the scientists noticed was that there was a unique ability every HIADD seemed to have. They all felt they could be put in a new job, and if left alone and not bothered other than to have some questions answered to get started, and get some assistance to carry out the simple, boring stuff, that they could easily accomplish almost any job, as in master it very quickly, and do easily what others could not even conceive of. One unique difference was reality. They all noted that they felt that reality was their key to this.
We seem to do the job in terms of reality, and that is the goal, not the accolades we get. You too?
He related the HIADD’s to mutants that were in a recent movie. We seem to be the perfect people for government work. We would do the job accurately, in a manner that would satisfy the ideals well, yet perhaps in a different manner. We could be effective, without need for huge sums of money, power, or admiration.
One scientist I spoke with said there was definitely a possibility that this is where we best fit, and although we are not mutants, the discovery of our unique abilities, confidence, intelligence levels, and the manner in which we utilize and relate to reality does make us interesting, and like a newly discovered mutant that would be a valuable asset in world government. It would certainly stop the problems associated with the emotional biases, the power struggle, the need to be seen, and all that stuff . . . that we see in power now.
May I ask two questions to see how the HIADD answer it?
Are you in favor of drug legalization in America? What do you think would happen if the government immediately made ALL drugs legal in America.
I am not asking this because of any preference for or against drugs, and in fact the question doesn’t really concern drugs at all. I ask the question only in that I would like to see how this interesting and highly controversial subject is approached by the High IQ ADD/ADHD people who stumble across it.
Perhaps it will shed some personal lights on what that study group found and how accurate it may be.
J Cook
Dina,
Write me. I think I have some answers that may help you. I too was in that fog that is confusing you. I know some things that may help you feel much better.
J Cook
cojon@suddenlink.net
@CatherineOmega @Zoeyjane great minds think alike:) see this Mensa #ADHD Special Interest Group 600+ Members http://bit.ly/1O0zb
J cook,
I think that legalizing drugs in america could have many affects. some good. some bad. on one hand the stigma of drug use would be lifted off of many peoples shoulders and would allow them to casually use drugs and still function and contribute to society more efficiently. On the other hand I do believe that many drugs are illegal for good reason (mostly because of addicting qualities) and allowing people to try them could leave mean addicted and that causes more problems due to financial and emotional distress.
as far as everything you stated about HIADD I am a firm believer in it and feel like I am a perfect match to everything you had listed about it except one thing in particular and that was about seeing others as chimpanzees. To me, I do feel different and in many ways, more gifted, but I feel like every single person is interesting to me and I think that every single person knows more about, at least one, particular subject than I do therefore I can learn something from every person I meet.
Like your idea of auditing classes, I have found myself sooo many times sitting at my computer watching lectures from many different universities online. I have learned so much in this way and I, like you, don’t feel it is necessary for me to get a degree. to me it is the knowledge that I value, its too bad society can’t come up with a way to evaluate my knowledge and intelligence without me handing them a piece of paper saying I learned this stuff. which in most cases those students hardly learned anything as they we just memorizing what they needed to know instead of learning what these things could tell them about the greater whole of the world and find a way to relate it to other things they have learned.
I have always found myself to do great on tests and I believe its because of the way I learn as opposed to simply memorizing material. I go into a test confident, and never let emotions hinder my ability, (not in anything I do in fact). If for some reason I do do poor on a test I never get down about it. I learn the material and do better the next time. I have gone to college, learned lots, and go from job to job as you said is typical for guys and gals like us. I started my own business last summer at the age of 19 and made pretty good money, enough to pay for some more college at least, this summer I found a sales job based on commision. I have found it to be a great fit, I work when I want to, I only get paid if I work, and the better I am at my job the more I get paid, and ive never found myself to be average at anything in which I put forth enough energy and time. My creativity and problem-solving always seem to excel me further and further up the ladder very quickly. But by the time I’m at the top I’m looking for my next outlet and trying to expand other facits of my life. I find myself to be very personable and empathetic which allow me to relate to almost anyone I meet. Thats why for me I don’t completely agree with me not getting along with “normal people” I usually can get along with anybody because I find ways I am similar to so many people. Yes, I do believe that most of the time I am completely different to the person I am trying to relate to, but I focus on what ever it is that makes us similar. The things that make us different are usually unimportant and unnecessary for discussion. Because I relate to so many people I often find myself being able to argue both sides to any argument and often switching my own opinions back and forth very easily when presented with new, relevant, information. anyone else like that? anyways, I feel like I’ve blabbered, rambled, and followed this stream of thought long enough.
Eric Brian Wentworth
To Eric.
Thanks for the comment on drug legalization in America. You were very candid without the usual need to justify what you said. Excellent, and very much what I hoped to see. I appreciate your reply.
Eric, could you email me privately? My address is in the replies above. I am hoping to do something and I would appreciate your candid thoughts on it. It is an attempt to assist a group; the elderly and disabled in America who are forced to endure a lower than poverty income in country the world considers one of the most wealthy.
Given the excessively wasteful spending of the American government, this country could easily do more to assist those citizens who, through no fault of their own, cannot help themselves. A group that is currently forced to live under some of the most stressful conditions the world has to offer. We think they do well, especially considering the state of others in poor countries. What we forget is those in the ‘poor countries’ have always lived that way. By comparison, the poor in Iraq or Iran are actually little different than their middle class. Here, where the country is, by comparison to Iran, extremely wealthy, the disabled and elderly on a fixed social security or disability income are truly different. Most cannot repair anything that breaks and are consistently in stress over money. They commonly go without necessary medical attention or are forced to endure second class medical assistance. There are even doctors and nurses who consider these people a burden on society, forgetting they are humans!
Yet consider that these are likely the people who were the builders of this wealthy country and those who sacrificed a limb or their health to assist us all in making America a wealthy country. Now they are forced to endure a lower than poverty income and are kept in this position by the ‘poverty police’ or the Social Security Administration who enforces ancient legislation designed to keep the disabled or the elderly from earning more money under threat of canceling their only, and very meager income should they show any earning potential.
These twelve to fifteen million low income people represent a hidden society that the wealthy hierarchy of American government does not want exhibited. They want it to remain a hidden secret so other countries do not learn of how we treat them. Additionally the government does not wish to have the burden of determining a method of assisting these people. It is an unpopular agenda and it bears the burden of association to any official who attempts to assist them.
How, for example, can the American Government find a way to bring additional assistance to a group of people that many Americans already (and secretly) feel are not worthy of the little money they are provided. Although it is not a spoken message, many Americans feel that most of the the disabled are just lazy people faking it so they can get free money and they won’t have to work. They also feel that the Americans who did not work hard enough to put away a retirement income do not deserve money. They are getting what they deserve–the tale of the grasshopper and the ant certainly was no help, and many still cannot see the difference between insects and humans. These complaining Americans are feeling the need for greed that has been well instilled by the wealthy corporations. They are jealous and think that money should be for themselves–especially since they are working to support the bums on welfare, which is a completely different program than from Social Security and Disability.
Yes, I know I have not taken the time to show that I realize not all Americans feel this, and there are many variables within this, but regardless, this large group of Americans needs an intelligent leader to assist their cause. Although I am not necessarily hoping to attain any position in this, if needed I am willing to assume the role of spokesman–at least until a proper spokesman can be retained. I am not the spokesman type. I speak in terms of reality–not something many wish to face–yet reality is what determines our future based on our present day methods.
I have done much in the way of research in this and I think a good beginning would be a web page designed to bring this group together and tell them that some intelligent Americans realize their predicament and are willing to assist them in bringing actual knowledge to America and provide the American government with the necessary numbers, research, and case studies to realize the extent of this problem as well as outline some potential solutions that would fit everyone.
I need some feedback on this issue. If you or others have any thoughts, would like to assist, can do advanced web and database programming, and have the time to volunteer–as I am–I would appreciate hearing from you. I am a Photoshop artist (although not an advanced one, I do decent looking stuff) and I will be providing my time to do the visuals.
Please let me know if you can help. If you know any elderly on Social Security or people on a Disability income that might be willing to assist and can offer the necessary skills, please pass my email address onto them.
Thanks so very much,
John Marion Cook